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Lady Mary Barttelot

Under DGC we have Lady Mary Barttelot. Only first glance this looks wrong. As we talking about Hon. Mary Angela Fiona Weld Forester who married Colonel Sir Brian Walter de Stopham Barttelot, 5th Bt. The honours referenced to her appear to match; then she is "Lady Barttelot" Garlicplanting (talk) 12:10, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Justice vs Grace

Unless I've missed it, this article doesn't explain what the distinction is between a Knight/Dame of Justice and a Knight/Dame of Grace. Are they considered different levels of seniority, or would each one be awarded to a different category of person (clergy vs non-clergy?)? Proteus (Talk) 11:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Judging from page 192 of McCreery[1] armigerous knights are 'of Justice' and non-armigerous knights are 'of Grace'. DrKay (talk) 14:54, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Proteus (Talk) 17:27, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]